GATTOUZ SHOOTS HIS SHOT AT CECE ROSE LIVE ON PILLOW TALK

Transcript

0:00

Me when I'm into the sex, I never get tired. I need something inside me. When I come, the pleasure I have, it's too much that I feel my heart one day is gonna stop. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Pan Out Time. I can't say, but welcome to the show, babies. Jerk May is unbelievable. The greatest digital platform of all time. People that watch the standard good old fit for you. But try this. I go on and fall in love with a new Colombian every single night. I love these girls. I love that human connection. They'll do whatever you want, also. Mostly the f in amazing. Anyways, it's called Jerk May. You know what to do. We can hook the boys up. And to get the hookup that we can offer you guys, go to our Instagram page. You're gonna be blessed with uh Magic Potter Golf. We love you so much, Jerkmate. We love you so much, Pillow Talk viewers. Let's make a jerkmate pillow talk viewer, baby, and have some fun. But before that, we have a battle episode, so let's get the pillow talk. Welcome back to your favorite podcast. It's Pillow Talk. I'm your host, Ryan Pono, the number one adult show in the world, baby. Back to back, AVN winners 2025-2026, and we're gonna do it again next year, baby girl. Huge show today, starting on my left. CC fucking Roman. Thank you for the introduction, my man. Thank you tonight. And our main guest today, because it's co-guests, no co-hosts. This is Gatus. What is your name? Because it's Gatuz, Gatouzo. What do we call you, bro? Gatuz, Gatouzo, uh, it's different, but both works. But you can call me Yusuf. What do you call Yusuf? Okay. Where do you come up with that word Gatuz? Is it anime character? No, Gatuz is like katus in Arabic, but you since you can't pronounce the ka, you're gonna say q, so I say gattuz. I'm like a cat, you know. Sometimes I'm nice, I'm very independent, but when I'm not in a good mood, I I bite very hard. Yes. So what made you come up with the name though? Uh Gattuz. Gatuz. Gatuz. Let's get this out of the way. What do you think of Cece Rose? Okay, let's be honest. Cece Rose, I didn't get that much time to hang out with you and know you personally. But from the look, gorgeous. And the beautiful smile, the innocent look, I like it. She's like cute, reserved. I like it. And maybe if I know you more, you will even attract me more, you know, to get to know your personality. Because did you know, that Cece Rose here has only slept with one man her entire life? Yeah, but imagine, Cece, that beautiful. I didn't see the feed, so maybe just for mental mental health. Okay, for sure. It's okay, for sure. So when you showed me that, it changed a lot of things. Oh my god. So good to use. We had people over on Wednesday night. We went over to our place after Baccharah, and you said to me, Ryan, what is a good place to have some sex? And I said, Oh, you could use my bed or you could no, no, no. That's disrespectful. Let me take this bathroom. Now you were in that bathroom for two and a half hours, and you walked out covered in sweat, and you said, Oh, I just cream pie this girl. And I said, You're your twos, cream pie, you're famous. She's gonna baby trap you, and you said, No, it's okay, God will take care of myself. Dude, not anything against religion, but I don't think God takes care of people in the cream pie department. You're gonna get baby trapped. What are you doing? What happens? What happens? Aren't you scared of having a little kid running around? I don't give a fuck. I don't care. I don't know. You won't don't care if there's like a bunch of baby Katushas just running around? I take care of the kid. You take care of them? But I will be single. I don't need the maybe the mom to grow up him, but I need to have to have my kid by myself. I can raise him, but I can be the mom, the dad, I can cook, I can clean. Everything. Yeah. So you just want kids but no wife. Yeah, but I don't want kids, I think. Because ketuos, you know how eight billion people have been born. We all stem from a cream pie. For sure, yeah. So, what are you doing, cream pie? Aren't you actually scared of these girls? No, no, cream pie, no. Because you cream pie a lot of the girls you sleep with, don't you? Yeah, because the sensation when you cream pie is different when you come on the face or on the body. It's incredible. Yeah, it's very different. But it's 10 seconds of pleasure for 18 years of a child. Is it worth it? When I'm sorry? It's 10 seconds of a cream pie pleasure, but there's no possibility of having 18 years of a child being raised. One minute of cream pie. I come a lot. I'm like a bull, that's the problem. It's one minute. Do you time it? Have you ever time it? It's very long, yeah. And when I crampai, CC a girl, I'm like thinking that she is my wife and I'm making her pregnant. This is what I think. Oh, so you when I crampai. So you try to manifest it? So you might actually have a kid out there one day. Wow. Don't worry. Okay. Yeah, so is that is that the fetish? It's the uh fertilizing the egg. I told you, I don't fuck to fuck. I fuck to make love and fuck, and I think she is my wife that moment, the person I love, tired from work. That's when making me special. She goes, What are you thinking about during sex? What goes through your head? Like I told you, she's my beautiful wife, queen. But it depends on the situation. Every girl is different. It's not really easy, you know? So some guys, when they're not getting their nut off, they think of other girls while they're fucking to come. Do you do that? It happened. Do you do it often? It happened. No. No. Okay. It happened when the girl has like a really shitty personality, and I'm like, I'm like, what what the fuck I'm doing here in this miserable place. Right. Yeah. Personality is most important. And then I would think of Sissy, and that girl, she gave a gave me a smile in the coffee shop, and she said, Good morning. Boom, my dick goes up. Oh, that's true. And you think of a girl from Starbucks. Something like this. Whatever. Any any like a girl this morning, she gave me a smile, she gave me a hug. Wow. Go back. But this girl, I'm fucking, I'm not gonna lie. She has a sh shitty personality. Like, uh-huh, come for me. Uh-uh. So you like passion? What you have to passionate? I like real sex. Even my videos. I I told you, I don't care if famous or no. You are tested, you have good personality. And that's all you care about. So I don't know if you know this about gatos. And we didn't talk about this last podcast, gatos. But you do something that no man has ever done before. I've heard. I fuck my fans. Well, beyond that. Beyond that. You eat your own cum. I mean, it's my cum. Why would the fuck I don't eat it? Like, but let me explain you. It's not something it is. It's not something I do it all the time. It's like when I do it. For example, when. It's when the girls say, Oh, I don't like to eat cum. I say, baby, listen, try. And I I can share it with you. Wow. You know? Or sometimes for the video, okay, I should it, but uh I tasted. It's it's my cum, it's my protein. Why would it go wasted? Either you drink it, you swallow it, either it's inside you, or either and how does your cum taste? I think it's strong sperm neutral taste, but it's sperm. Never, never, never sperm will taste sweet. This is bullshit. It's sperm, it tastes strong. Right. But not disgusting. It's my cum. Because no one has ever done that in porn. You're the first, you know that. Yeah, but the most important thing, I said it again and again. I love to fuck my fans. All you gotta do is send me a message, see what I am, get tested, be fast. Okay, I'm gonna get tested, everything, and that's it. Now, if you fall for a girl who's beautiful, but untested, yeah, do you wear a condom? Yeah, I wear a condom, but I don't eat a pussy just for my safety. You don't eat pussy if she's untested? No. What can you catch from your mouth? Because let me explain you guys, it's very important. As a porn star, as everything, we have to talk about STDs. I'm not like, ah, I'm a porn star. Who cares? The most important thing when we are a porn star, we have to raise awareness about STDs, about this type of shit, consent and everything. This is really most important than making the videos. People say, as porn stars, yeah, got too like a bunny. But let me explain you. It's not easy. You have to get tested, blah blah blah blah blah. But I explain you as a man how and the opposite for the girls, of course. As a man, if you don't know the girl, like one ninth stand, don't eat the pussy. Okay? Don't eat the because you have a big risk to get STDs. But you can get from your mouth. Ah, clam media gonna reel. I mean, of course. I did not know that. You are in a really high risk when you eat the pussy. But when she sucks you, there is a less chance like 0.00. I'm not gonna reel that way in Colombia. Interesting in Medellin. I had a condom on and I lost my boner because I was on a lot of 20. And I said, baby, can you just suck it to get me harder? Then she sucked it, maybe five sucks. Damn. I put the condom back on, and guess what? I was dripping fucking black pus from my dick. I think it might be the condom not well done because it's almost very rare that you get throat gonorrhea. But if a girl had throat gonorrhea, she wouldn't know about it, like you know, because gonorrhea is gonorrhea, you can feel it. Well, maybe she didn't want to tell him though. That's the issue. Yeah, probably. Have you ever had a bad reaction to like someone not wanting to get tested? No, I got like UTI because I forgot to pee. After and it went after three days by water. But what? Yeah, but I'm I'm very lucky. I did bad things. Huh? You didn't pee for three days. No, I pee for three days. I drink a lot of water. Okay. I explained everything, guys. Gunore is uh like STD you can get cured by injection or 10 pills a day, and it will go after three, four days. So do you know this from experience? Master, no, master I do. Master of sex. Uh we're talking about master of sex here, not uh you are the master. So there is a lot of STDs. You can go to clamedia. I think the most annoying one is clamedia because clamedia, gonna it appears fast, you can feel it right away. Yes, but clamedia after two weeks, you have to see if you have it or no. And we said symptoms. Asymptomatic. Yeah, so the problem is you don't know that you have it, you have to wait two weeks, and then you gotta get tested, wait for the results, and then wait another one week after taking the your antibiotics. So it's like one month. Yeah. So don't just don't be stupid. Have you had an STD, CC? No, never. Oh, it's not that bad. It's kind of chill. I mean, like it. Yeah, getting tested will yeah, getting tested will prevent you not 100% of STDs. Even condom, condom is for pregnancy. Yeah, you have to understand condom doesn't make you maybe safer 90%, 95% if you don't know how to wear the condom. But today let's talk about how to wear a condom. Do we have a condom here? Yes, please, let's wear it. Okay, I don't know how to do it. Are you supposed to pinch the air bubble at the top or not? So I don't know if you are. Do you guys know? Imagine this uh the air bubble at the top, that little thing. Are you supposed to pinch it? Yeah, yeah. And take the air out? Yeah. So you pinch it and you roll it down. Not the opposite. Like you gotta roll it like. So you pinch the air out. Yeah, you pinch it, you roll it. Okay. Okay, and then boom, you do, you do, you do, you do. And make sure when you have sex, you look at the condom, because sometimes that your pre-com can make the condom go. Ah. When you feel the condom, because some people can follow and the condom, oh, it's inside already. You gotta be careful, look. And at the same time, if you feel the condom is gonna get out, like for me, for example, why I hate condoms, it's not because uh that, it's because I have a lot of pre-com. And when I push, no, for sure. I when I put the condom, after five minutes, it's full of my pre-com and the condom will get away. So I gotta change in 30 minutes, like 10 condoms. So do you just have like a box on the side and you just keep ripping through it? Yeah, I have to. Whenever I take the condom out, I run to the bathroom, I clean with soap, with water, everything, and I pee. This is how you should do pee, pee. You push it with everything, you pee, and then you put a condom again. I know it's annoying. Your dick will go down. Yeah, so girls have to understand that the dick cannot stay up 24 hours. Yeah, it's only in production board when the guy inject their dick. Yeah, but as a man, the dick goes down. So maybe Well, don't you find taking stills challenging if you're not injecting? Of course, that's the whole point. Stills are hard. Yeah. So still we're gonna talk about this. Yes. Now we talk about uh STDs. It's very important to talk about STDs. Yes, that's a really good topic. Yes. People see us as a porn stars, they think about HIV. That's what they think. I'm telling you, every person thinks porn stars, oh, they got HIV. But do you even know what is HIV? It's not an STD. It's not. It's uh the the blood transfusion. How to say it? It's a it's it's a disease transfused through blood uh from blood on blood contact. Yes, blood hops over from my body to yours, jumps over. I don't know how to explain it in English, but just say it more. Because the people say that it's sida. Although the VIH is the virus. But the dermal is the sida. Although the people say sida, sida, sida. Right. But they say it's the deriv. Okay, guys, we're gonna talk about STDs. Is it we just spoke French, by the way? Can we get a hand for that? I speak six languages, by the way, but let uh we all know. It's because he wants to fuck girls in six different countries. Okay, so let's talk about STDs and how you prevent it. When you put the condom, pinch, put it down like this, pinch and pull it. And make sure when you're fucking. Yeah, pinch and pull. And make sure when you're fucking, the condom doesn't go away. If you it goes away, you go up, you go clean with soap, tack, tack, tack, you dry and you try to pee. The girl can wait. It's fine. My dick goes down. Please, baby, can you suck me? Kiss everything is about communication. This is a prevention, yes. But it doesn't prevent you from HPV, maybe get vaccinated, from uh whatever, hairpies, all these. But I have a question. Yeah. Okay. So I was born with cold sores, okay me too. Okay. Me too. So my mom has them and I was born with them before I ever kissed the girl. Me too. Now, whenever I get them on my lip, people say, Rhina's herpes, rhino's herpes. But is it true that if my cold sores from genetically my mother, if I eat a pussy, can give her genital herpes? Is that true? I think cold sores would only be true. It's the biggest myth ever. I would I would say no. Right, thank you. I would say no. I'm pretty sure. I never got any issues. I would say no. Eats a pussy for the first time. Can he give a genital herpes to a woman's vagina? I think no. I think no too. I think no. I think no. It's a myth. I think no. I don't have fucking herpes, guys. My mom gave it to me. So not that way. Yeah, so like they think porn stars have HIV, but we get tested. At least it prevents us, let's say 90%. I feel like porn stars are safer than the average person. It depends. The problem is that fuck off camera with girls that aren't tested, and then they bring it back to the industry. Yeah, and some I would say professional porn stars are. And some people do like maybe escorting, prostitution. I know, I know. They put condoms. They put condoms, but a customer can pay a lot and ask without a condom. It can be a problem. That's true. So we can never control this. That's why I'm very selective who I work with, and I make sure the test is new. It makes me more comfortable like 90%. Because get too is. But it's better than fucking a random girl. But on day 13. I don't fuck girls like fans, like I feel that is like threatened by STDs. I make sure the girl is cute, shy, makes me, you know, but I of course I get them tested. That's my obligation, you know? Because Gatus, it's every two weeks mandatory for mainstream to get tested, okay? So every second Monday, everyone gets tested. Now, on day 13, it's getting a little sketchy for a guy like Gatos, respectfully, because you are such a ladies' man and girls want you. Now, day 13, is that even that safe? I think it should be tested every seven days. Do you agree? I I I don't care who I'm working with. I will ask for a recent test. It has to be just for me. No, it just has to be for me. Oh, one new test for you. I feel like that's smart. That's good. I don't care. You see, only you can ask for that because you're fucking gatus. But a guy who's like, I know that it's for my he can't ask for that shit. It's for my safety. Because you know, even when you even you have one partner, CC, let's say. Yeah. You fuck with him, but he forgot to pee or you forgot to pee. You have UTI. Yeah. So the UTI, and you give him. So it can happen. Anything can happen. Yeah, can we argue the fact that Catus is Catus because he does that though? Catus is gathoos for a lot of reasons. Yeah. You are a very special, unique character. Yeah, Gatus is gathos. You can never fuck like me for sure, because I made for this. Who make who make uh uh videos three hours, three hours, thirty minutes? Give me one person in this world that does videos three hours, three hours, thirty minutes. And you do it because you enjoy it. Nobody, right? Because here's the thing about you. Okay, Jenny, you know, our good friend Jenny, the Asian. Yeah, she told me that you went to the Philippines with her, okay? And there was some old lady working construction, and that you got an erection and said, Oh, I want to make her dreams come true. What the fuck is that? I don't speak English right now. He she said to me, Gatouz is attracted by a woman who works so hard and isn't getting proper love, and he wants to make fulfill their fantasies. Some old, ugly, hardworking construction lady turns him on. What the fuck is that? Because he he's turned on by character. That's what it is. Right. Yeah, but we're gonna back to this to this situation in a bit because we're gonna talk about mental health. It's gonna be, I will, I will introduce you. Now let's finish. Okay, but I wanna I want that question answered later, too. Yeah. Hopefully, go back. STDs. Now you can cure any STD, even HIV, you can live with it and take pills. So, guys, if it happens, I hope not. You can still live one pill, and when you take the pill, you prevent not to spread it, right? Yes. So, guys, just leave your life. What happens? What happens? I think HIV is more for gay community, trans community, and I think it's more risky to the guy to the person who gets penetrated from the ass. You know? Absolutely. And the one after who penetrates, that's too risky in the ass. I'm not a fan of ass. You don't do anal? But I do it if the girl is really hot and she's really into anal. I I can if she asks you. Yeah, but I can do it. But it's not something it really turns out. No, never. Oh, really? I think no. Don't you find that anal, the ass muscle expands to the size of the penis after about 120 seconds, two minutes, and then it's coming. It's almost too loose. Whereas a vagina tightly grips a dick. Do you agree? I think pussy for me. Yes, of course. The vagina's a muscle, you can grip it while it's in there. Right. Whereas an ass. It's just there. You know, girls that fuck dread, right? Biggest, whitest cock ever. They actually do anal with him more than pussy because that muscle of the anal glands expand. Who? Dread. Dred. I don't watch porn. I don't know. You don't know who dread is? No. I really don't. I don't watch porn. Okay. Maybe I know the OGs, like uh the Jenner when I was young, but. Rocco, did you grow up watching Rocco? Yeah, Rocco, he's a very nice guy. I met him once. Oh, you did? Yeah, I met him. How was that? Is he a fan of you? Uh it's a long story, but uh Rocco, uh, I met him uh before even I started uh porn. You know, he watches every time every Pillow Talk episode, yeah. And I told Rocco's my fan. And I told Rocco, I'm gonna make it one day, and he said, You better do. And I made it, and he sent me a message. I'm really happy for you, Gatut. And I'm thank you so much. Wow. I I never I never stopped. I believed in myself. It was very hard. Rocco did he talks to me like that too. It was very hard. He supports Rocco, so Freddy, guys. The pioneer. You are kind of the new Rocco, I want to say. I mean, Rocco is Rocco, me is me, everyone is is themselves. I'm by myself, you know? Yes. So, guys, for the STDs, just make sure when you have a new relationship or a wife, the male stippler the male stimule. The most important thing is to get tested. Yeah. For real. Let's get tested. And her. She's fine. When's the last time you had sex, Cece? I mean, if I see Cece, the chance of she has is like almost zero percent my feeling, you know? So CeCe, I don't even think when is the last time you had sex, CC? It was around COVID times. Wow. Can you believe that, Gatus? It's been four years. Yeah, but if I don't know Cece and we met for the first time, for example, and we have like a beautiful time together and everything, and you tell me, Gatus, I really like not into sex, I would say no problem. No penetration, but CeCe, please. Only two things let me eat feet and pussy. That's well, you know what? She has her feet out here. I can't have a relationship with a girl. I can have a relationship with a girl for at least a few months and not fucking if she doesn't feel it, but I need to eat pussy. You understand me? Yeah. For my mental health. Yeah, because you know what? Is about mental health and it's true. Yes. When you told me about um what are we talking about? My ex. No, in the Philippines, something. Oh yeah. Jenny told me that you saw a hardworking old lady with a shovel in a ditch, and she was going like this, and you got an erection. You said, I want to make her dreams come true. What was that about? Yes. Really? Yeah, bro. I don't know. My brain is not functioning right now. Damn. Yeah, I was gonna go the point too, like making two hours, three hours video, okay? Listen, when the girls is really into it, because like I said, I don't do professional porn, I don't like it. Have you shot one mainstream scene? Never. Good for you. Even they asked me a lot of money. Do you know why? I need interaction with the girl. Yes. I'm not gonna people think I see a lot of girls. Let's let's be honest. I see a lot of girls complain about men not gaining hard. But do you even know how the fucking dick works? You're not a man, it's fucking hard. Yes. Like men get ashamed because of the size of their dick first, because of porn. So I made it normal size. You can make it. So it doesn't matter, small or big. Right? You're still seven. Yeah, but it doesn't matter. It's not important in your life. There is other things to do than worry about my size, and you can train, you can watch more, you can do everything. But when you're doing porn, I understand, but at least be nice to the guy. Thank you. That's why, guys, right now inject. Come on, guys. But let's be honest, because call for a clap. Fucking clap. I'm not I'm not fake. I already got big balls from life, and I have big balls when I speak. Because I see, because you know what's what's happening in porn, and I see a lot of women complain about that. The guy, I when we should stream the guy, it doesn't get hard. Uh we need a guy. Do you even know how the fucking dick works? Most of the guys inject right now. Yeah, yeah. Because they are scared. It's so sad. It's sad that it got to the point where you have to inject just 99% of the guys work in production inject. And they would never tell you this. And once you start because they don't have the balls. You can't stop, right? Yeah, that's right. Once you start. Once you start, you can't stop. Of course. But they don't even can fuck for fun. Everything should be shooting. But why don't you even shoot? Are you having fun? Are you having sex? Don't be lying, don't be lying. Well, you know, and then these guys come home to their wives, and then the wife jumps on them and says, quick eat, and they say, Two minutes, my dear. They have to go to the bathroom and inject. They can't have spontaneous sex anymore. Yeah, because look, look, look, these guys are boys, right? They're watching us. Yes. And I'm telling them, you should never inject your fucking dick. Only maybe one or two months for a big scene, maybe. But what's the point of making money and having sex just to inject? Because it won't work by time. You know why? Because when you get hard, everything is about your mind. The mind controls your erection. Imagine you fuck up your mind by just injecting, and I'm not. You're losing the mind-body connection when you know something they also have to inject to get it down at the end. Yeah, I know. When the when the dose is high. Yes. But why? Unbelievable. I think if the girls maybe become a little bit nicer to the guys and maybe interact with the guy you're working with, what would you shoot with a guy he doesn't even attract you? For the content, for the money? Are we living in a fake world? We have porn so we are having sex. Yes. If you he's not if you're not attracted to him, don't fucking do the video with him. Don't complain about him. If you're attracted to me and we're gonna have a scene, at least give me a kiss, give me a hug. Yes. Oh, I have a boyfriend. Oh, your boyfriend then he has to accept your fucking work. Yeah. If you have a boyfriend, then stay with your boyfriend. Yes, guys. Right? It's kind of crazy. I feel like porn stars have the most important thing. Yeah. Like I feel like porn stars have the most pleasurable job in the world, but then they they muck it up. They make it not human anymore. Yeah. By doing stuff like that. It's true because your wife is a porn star. You have to agree that she sleeps with other guys, right? Yeah. But you're you're gonna film with a guy. I'm not a robot to film with me. Why if you cannot kiss me at least or have a hug or some interaction to turn me on, and you just say hi, or not even look at me, and you expect me to get hard and then complain? Yeah. And I heard some men tell me that some girls turn their face when you're gonna come. Oh what world are we living in? Are we serious? Are we that serious? Right. Do you know how the dick works? You have to turn me on to get it hard. I'm not gonna fucking inject my dick. For me, it's any worth the price. You have to make the man feel comfortable and safe. Well, at the end of the day, sex is intimate. The man has to feel in control of the scene or he will not get a rap. Yeah, but what's the point being a porn starter? We we have to make real fucking scenes, not fake scenes. Agreed. Now, most of the mainstream porn is 99% fake. Yes. And don't people would say yes, but you know, inside you, you're you're lying to yourself. Well, look at a lot of the porn. The girls are having fake orgasms. Now the men are cedophil as fake cum. Fake cum. What the fuck is that? Let's be honest. Squirting in mainstream porn? Because people are fake cum. They're pissing. They're fucking pissing. Shh. That's not what a squirt is. A squirt is a little bit of and that's it. That's it. Yeah. This little fucking shh is a stream of piss. Yeah, because you know why? People are thinking about money. But what's the point making money if you don't enjoy what you do? That's right. Of course, you're gonna fuck up your mind. Not everything you see in porn is real. Yeah. What I make is real for sure. Because I will never sleep with a girl that doesn't turn me on. Maybe it happens two or three times. The girl I was expecting from the message, she was cool, but then at the end she was like very cold, but I'm like, what the fuck I'm doing here in this miserable place. Yeah, I gotta go through, but let me be honest. Girls should be more nicer to the men. Thank you, Gutierrez. Please give me a kiss. Yes. Even the guy is struggling with his dick. You can say, okay, man, help me a little bit. It's not a problem. Or play with his balls because he's mouthwise or just say nice things in his ear while he's jerking off. Yeah, I'm not sure what I do. It's hard in its way, but when do people is do professional, it's fucking hard for a man. Yes. I mean, a girl doesn't get a bonder. I'm so sorry. The girl has a bit of lube and she's no. She just has to be pretty. And inside the action. It is like the same way. Like the girl also has to be like. No, it's not the same at all. Night and day. No, wait, what? Yeah. No one has to. I'm not saying it's the exact same, but you have to be like gentle and kind to the girl to get her naturally what she's gonna do. Instead of just jacking her up with lube but then pounding her. Now get too how much is a part of every man, should be like this for sure. But why would you even force yourself to do anal, to do whatever it's coging, bang, a zibbi? What the fuck? Like, why would you force yourself to do these because the audience is asking for it? Yes, and then you're gonna fuck up your mind and have some trauma because of it. Don't don't risk your life or your your future or your your mental health because of money and people like asking, demand. Okay, oh, you have to work with this, you have to work. People ask me, like, gathos, we have to work with this, we have to. But bro, I message the girl. I meet her in real life. She doesn't even hug me or kiss me. Right. She doesn't even interact with me. Right. Yeah. How the fuck you want me to fuck the girl? I don't care about the content. That's right. I care about what I'm doing. It's the vibes first. I I like I like most small creators because they just starting and they get like into it. They're real. Because most of the people, when they get the fame, they become fake. Yeah, it's true. Right. They try to sell more instead of just be natural and be themselves. Negative. I want to ask you a question that all men here can relate to, especially non-porn stars. Yeah. It is called post-not clarity, and I don't talk about this enough. But as soon as you come, it's true. It's the most true thing ever. Yeah, let me be honest with you. Talk to me about your post-not clarity. Let me give an example with Sisi. SCC, it's a girl I met. Okay? We're not loving. Other part. It's a girl I met. We have sex. We have sex. Me when I'm into the sex, I never get tired. And it's something inside me. I never get tired from fucking. I would never I'm tired. Never. I'm like a monster. I think fucking until like you can't breathe. You understand me? That's really good for me. It's a good pleasure. When I come, my when I come, the pleasure I have, it's too much that I feel my heart one day is gonna stop. But and then when I finish calm, I I think I have the worst post not clarity. Like no, I have the worst of the worst. Tell us about it. What's been the worst? I wanna put my fucking head in the glass. I'm so disgusted about life, about everything. Me too. I want nobody to talk to me. Everybody. Like you can't imagine. Everybody. That's insane. That's insane. But my life is worse than ever. All of us, bro. But guys, you all get crazy clarity. But it shouldn't be a reason to not be nice to the girl. So control that fucking anger. It's very hard, emotional inside us. Be nice to the girl, give her a hug, stay. Even I know the personal clarity is bad. Give her her, make her comfortable, make her everything is okay, baby. I know you don't want to get touched, you want to be your side. At least spend five minutes with her and give that man a moment. Yeah. We need our moment after personal. Like, what's going through your head when you're five minutes? Like when I when I finish, I take care of the girl. Are you okay, baby? Five minutes. And then leave me alone for a bit. I need to five minutes with the girl, 15 minutes to your. After those five minutes. What do I have to do tomorrow? Oh my god, I have to do this. I have to size, you know. Like, what's going on? You just have like a wave of anxiety. That's like post-place. Yes. What's going on? What? You know, it's empty here. Like, you think about your future, you think about the old lady, 70-year-old, no teeth, you fucked. Well, what the fuck is going on? So post-not clarity is essentially the come down. It's your uncertain. We all have it, you're just being honest. Guys, do you agree we all go through this? Yeah. But if you love someone, I'm sure the post-not clarity is and it's love. Yeah. Would be fine. If you love someone. If you love someone. So what's the switch there though? If I love you, CC, and I have the post not clarity, the worst of my life. I will still hold you and squeeze her because I love you. Okay, that's different. Correct. I'm not gonna lie. And that's why men like making love better than having sex. That makes sense. But I I I have words that are the worst personality. I'm always nice to the girls after. I have my my mystery. But you have to tell them you have to force it a little. Let's be real. I'm not gonna lie. Yes. No, I'm very polite. I take care of the girl, and then I tell her, I give me uh five minutes watching the sky the sky. Yes, yes. Listen to some music. Going to touch grass. Yes. Yeah, I don't know what's going on right now. No, that's everybody. That's everybody. I calm a lot. You have to understand, CeCe. I calm a lot. I'm not a normal calm. When I come, I'm dying. It's too much. Sometimes I'm like fucking after one hour, two hours, and I'm like, baby, I don't know if I am calm because if I come, I think I will die. Please. Are you serious? Yeah. So you stop yourself from coming sometimes if you're scared. No? No. You still do it. He risks his life every time. I mean, I mean, after two hours of sex, at least I deserve a creep eye. That's the minimum. Could you come in five minutes if you wanted to? Yeah, yeah, of course. So it's all when you decide to come. No, I do it for my mental health. I explain to you again and again. When I fuck for two hours, three hours, you don't need to do that. You can fuck for 10 minutes, 15, 20, everyone is happy. Yes. Me is I do it for my mental health. Why? Because when I meet the girls, so I like to choose the girls that are really into me. Okay. Not like, you know, when you have to. Not a fan that, oh, let's collab and get good views. Just collab, or you just have to press the video, you can kiss her. When the video stops, she goes back. Like uh you want a little bit of for me is what the fuck? I'm not like, okay, we do the video work, but I'm a human. We have interaction together. At least you can kiss me, okay? Yeah. You can kiss me, you can put the camera on. You maybe you want some intimate moment. That's a real connection. Like we're here to fuck, first of all. What's the point of and the video stops and you go back? Yeah. Do you want to tell us about one of your worst experiences? You don't have to say names. But give us an example. It's not it's not about names. But for me, uh the worst of the worst, I say it again, is the shittiest personality ever. Yes. Like the shittiest personality ever makes a man not in in uh comfortable. Comfortable. Yes. Even in professional poor, in everything. Yes. Okay, maybe the guy doesn't inject, I don't know, Viagra or Sayers. Just help him. Just if you don't, if you this guy doesn't attract you, don't fucking shoot with him some poor. Now, Gatus, you are fully straight, correct? You're not gay. No, I'm fully straight. Now, a lot of people in your messages and customs request boy boy girl. Or gay men. Okay. Do you do that? No, I I'm not into that. But let me explain you. Yeah. That it could happen when, for example, a friend is here and and another girl and another girl. Like have you and Yusuf ever fucked a girl together? Yeah. But it didn't happen like that. It happens like we were horny, the girl uh was like it happens like that. Okay. Same for a for a friend, uh porn star, for example, and he tells me that we're gonna shoot, I would be turned off. Okay, it has to be like, I'm having my moment, I'm hard, and then I don't care. Right. But it's not something it turns me on. Do you lose your erection being around men in uh in a sexual environment? Yeah, I need to be intimate first. First, give me those five. Sometimes I have cock watching his wife, so I tell him, please wait ten minutes. Oh, yeah, the cock is wait, wait ten minutes in the room. Yusuf, let me get hard, let me have my moments. And then when I'm horny, you can call. You just told us about the boy boy girls you guys are together, Yusuf. But it's not something I will look at him, I don't give a fuck. I just hear I'm horny, you know? Yeah, well, so I've done boy boy girl in college with my friends, and as soon as I see my best friend going, Oh, I lose my fucking bone, bro. It's normal. That's why you never force yourself to do something. Yeah, right. People ask me, you have to collab with this, I have to collab. No, I don't have to collab with you. You don't do shit. If if for me it's better that the girl text me and oh, I really when she says I want to collab with you, I feel it's a little bit work in my mind. But what if, oh Gatus, I really like your videos? Can you please fuck me? Yes. I understand. We're gonna collab, we're gonna get tested, we're gonna do everything. But just tell me that you really wanna fuck me. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Don't make it a business transaction. Right? Imagine I send you collab and collab. Collab and question mark. Like collab question mark, yes. You get a lot of those, right? I think what word are we leaving in? Like, we're doing porn. It has to be fucking real. Why would you fucking fuck a girl? Like, if the girl doesn't turn you on, you won't get hard. Yes, right? So most of the guys inject. Yes. And people think it's okay, like, oh, they just talking and the guy already have a boner. No. No. Sorry, girls. Some guys need some interaction and guys who don't inject, real guys, yes. Sometimes, yeah, the girl. Yes, the girl, you have a boner with her in a coffee. I understand. Some girls know, but doesn't mean um it doesn't mean she doesn't attract you. It just maybe some guys need more kisses, more bro job, he's stressed. We gotta take care of the guys too. Absolutely. Okay, because we listen, in in sex, let's be honest, CC. Men do everything. Oh, yeah. Yes or no? You can tell me. Yeah, well, I mean, like, girls can take control for like a minute or two, like that. But I'm not like you guys do work. Yeah, I'm not talking about the assholes man. I'm talking about a gentleman that would take care of the girl, yeah, make her feel comfortable, nice, consent, everything. Like in a gentleman, even when the girl is on top and riding, he is still doing the world. He's still making you feel comfortable. But I don't think a girl can ride more than five minutes. I'm not gonna lie to you. You don't think so? No, more than five minutes. I don't think she wouldn't know. You know, five minutes, CC, CC, CC. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Five minutes, guys, five minutes, it's a lot of time. Put five minutes timer and try to ride. Oh no, I agree with you. Yeah, imagine me fucking two hours. Can you believe two hours doing this and sweat and right, right, right? So I'm I'm talking about as a gentleman, yeah, we're gonna take care of the girl. Everything, consent, kiss, be nice, slowly, we adapt. That's okay. But I'm talking about besides that, we do everything. Yes, we get hard. It's not easy to get hard. That's right. With with a new girl with cameraman. In in in life, yeah, maybe it's easier, but on video, some girls can say some shit and it will turn you off. Yeah, even words. It doesn't mean you have to be stinky, not good looking. Like you just she can't tell you any word. I want to talk next about stinky pussies. Yeah. But imagine I'm having fun with you and you say I don't know, any any some word that it can turn me off. Everything is mental. Yeah. So you, you are the one who's gonna help me to be at my best. But if you're not helping me, then how can you want me to be at my best? But imagine if you're not helping me, and I have to get hard on someone that is like annoying or like doesn't make me feel good, and I have to fuck good, and I have to not to come fast, and I have to pleasure you and I have to pleasure you because what the org masculine orgasm is the one important to have kids. The orgasm feminine was never obligation to have kids. Do you agree? I I've heard studies that it helps, but it isn't mandatory. Let's be honest, let's be honest. If you're like orgasm helps feminine, if you're not 100% fertile, I've heard it helps. Let's be honest, guys. You listen here in the room. When we need kids, do we need the orgasm feminine? Yeah, we don't need it. No. We need the time of a man. Yes. Okay, so I am doing this to pleasure the girl in general. When I fuck, I don't care about me coming. Yeah. It's you, you get the pleasure, and you you have fun, and you you're gonna have your orgasm. And if you you don't have the orgasm, you can't blame the guy. The guy will do everything he's possible. So that's what a gentleman will do everything that's possible. So that's why I'm gonna ask you how can I make you come? How can I make you comfortable? Everything is about communication. You can just start put your fucking finger and squirt her and hurt her. Do you make sure the girl comes every time you have sex? Let me be honest with you, yeah, I will do my best. But it doesn't mean she didn't come, it's my fault. It was never the man's fault. No, it's it's her mental. Sometimes a girl can be in like the moment and get so stuck in her mental. But it's hard to say. When that stands, girls are not comfortable with this new guy. That's the issue. But it's also like some girls have like anxiety while being in the moment too. Yeah, of course. You cannot blame the guy, right? Yeah, no. Of course. If you're having anxiety, it's not the person that you're fucking's fault that you're not having an orgasm. You know, before in 1990, they didn't care about orgasm, they just fuck make babies, right? So now it's become me when I fuck, I want the girl to have fun. Just because of all these podcasts. That's how that no, I'm real. That's fuck. I don't give a fuck about anybody. Fuck you, everybody. When I fuck, me personally, I do it for the girl to have the biggest pleasure and have fun in her life. And then when I did my best, I deserve to come. Yeah. Right? Agreed. It's perfect. Yeah. But the pressure that has on a man, these guys are normal men, right? But yeah, I I do, I I need to put maybe stigma. Fuck with them, fuck with them. No, don't worry, I would never do that. Only precount. So when a normal girl sees me, he thinks he's like, no, bro, don't compare me to you. When I was seven, eight year old, I asked my parents to give me fucking raw onions and ginger and honey and fucking garlic every day to become the best of the best. What am I right now? Yeah. I don't drink, I don't smoke, I don't vape, I don't take drugs. Why? Why? I don't eat shit. Because I do what I do. Yes. I do what not only my health. How can you be a fucking the beast of the beast in sex in bed? When you smoke and drink and then you inject, don't tell me you're a good uh I'm so sorry. You're just like Did you take Viagra? Sometimes when I feel the girl is the worst of the worst personality and it stinks as fuck, then I can run and take some. So we talk about stinky vaginas. Yeah, because that's that's on a video is different. Yes. Because when you do the video, there is a pressure. So how how often do you come across vaginas that don't smell good? Very rarely. Okay. Because I think the girl who does more porn knows how to clean up and everything. So it's a little bit rare. But normal girls, it can happen. So usually I put my finger first and I try to smell it secretly. And if it's very stinky, I will I will like kiss and maybe wash my hands. Yeah, something else. When you when you touch the pussy and you feel it's stinky, but if you touch it and that liquid touches your dick, you can have STD too. So always wash your hands when you finger. After you finger, a normal girl, but don't lick the pussy, wash your hands with soap. Make sure it doesn't touch your dick. Wow. Yeah, it's very important. Oh, because that can now make your dick stink? No, it can make you get you SDDs. Just from fingering and then touching your body. Fingering and then slowly, yeah, of course. Oh, I didn't know that. That's crazy. Yeah. Wow. Of course. Wow. So girls with stinky vaginas, often it is uh bacterial. It can be bacteria, it can be not. But yeah, imagine I have a stinky girl in in front of me. I would tell you, please, the smell a little bit not good. Can We shower together. I understand. It just means make her snow. No, and you tell the girl if it stinks. If it's too much, if it's unbearable, you don't know. Chain does that. I mean, I wouldn't. If it a lot of it, it's okay. If it's too much, I would be like, please, uh, let's shower. Let's take care of it. But don't they get so shy and embarrassed after if you tell them? No, it just gotta be nice and true because that stinky won't. I I can't get hard. Yeah, of course. The smell, you understand? Yeah. There's nothing. Have you ever had a bad reaction by telling a girl, hey, let's shower first? Like the smell? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. What's the worst thing that's happened when you've told someone? Good question, CT. Thank you. What do you mean? What's the worst thing that's happened when you've told someone? Hey, like it kind of smells, can we shower? I don't say like smells like that. No, I'm not sure. I would be like very, very nice. When you've told the girl and she has a bad reaction, what's the worst? She understands. I say, I say, I I think uh I adapt, let's say. But I'm I'm so nice. But we have to shower. I cannot get hard. And she agrees to shower? Has she ever just walked? Of course. If she wanna walk down, she can walk down. They don't want to come to get to his, bro. Yeah, I don't think. Well, yeah, no, no, but I never make someone embarrassed, for real. Yeah. But if it's stinky, it's stinky. I'm okay. How can I get hard? Yeah. You want me to inject my dick with it? I also appreciate that because you're like, it's it's natural. Just shower. Of course. Yeah, because we shower. How old are you? Twenty-eight. Twenty-eight. Okay. So you're not doing injunctions, but are you now taking pills before? Sometimes. I told you. Sometimes maybe I'm fucking too much, I'm tired. Okay. Oh, I fucked like four girls and tomorrow I have a collab. Maybe. But the pill, it won't help you, but you need to still get excited to give to get hard. But the pill won't make you last long and fuck like me. For example. What about masturbation? How often are you jerking off? Okay, now I don't jerk off almost. Oh, okay. Yeah. Because you want to save your cum for women? I I can fuck uh beautiful women. I don't need to masturbate. You need to have sex every day. It's not every day. It's when you're healthy, you're horny. If you're not horny, you're not healthy. I'm sorry. You smoke every day and you vape. Maybe you think you're horny, but imagine you stop all of this and you start eating healthy. Your fruit becomes your drug. Yeah, you become human nature. And you can feel it as a woman. You're feeding your body like you would naturally. So naturally, all your hormones that are meant to be there come out. You can tell as a woman when you see a guy, if he's masculine, he you feel that energy. Yeah, you can feel it. You can tell. That's it. So why not? We see what you have right now. Give it to me, give it to me. You see, these guys, by respect, this is worse than drug. This is a worse than cigarette, than alcohol, that every this this fucking shit is the worst of the worst. You know why? Because when you take drugs, at least you know that the drugs can fuck you up. You will feel it. But this shit, you never feel it. You will take 500, 1,000 times every day. And one day you never know when bad things can happen to you. When I stop and break, if I break this right now, I know he's gonna get mad inside him. Oh, yeah, I'm gonna cry. Right? Yes. So that's addiction. It is, it is. This will make you not harm it up. I would never you recommend it's cheap now and it's the worst of the worst. Thank you, good. So my rules if you wanna be the best fucking fucker, the best fucking masculine motherfucker, never vape. Okay, you listen, guys, for real. Here we go. Never vape. Not only for sex, for your life. You gotta be strong. No vape, no cigarette, no alcohol, no drugs, and no fucking shitty fast foods. When you go with your mom, those every day. Yeah, when it is good, when it's the birthday of your mom, then yeah, you can eat something with your mom because it's good memories, but you won't do that shit every day. Every single day. Right. In moderation, it's okay, but like, yeah, every single day, it's just overindulgence and addiction. Men become weak. Now, listen, guys. Generation. I think that you two are so polar opposites. Because I like girls opposites of me. We match sex so much. Now, someone like CeCe, say you guys are connected, and I think you are. Would you date her just to have sex with her? Because that would be a player. What do you think about that? No. Cece already I'm honest. And I'm not a fucking uh I know I don't need to do this to I'm always I'm honest. Even with the girls, I need I I say to the girls. Don't you think sex with her would be amazing? I think passionate, yes, but uh because I make only good memories, but I'm I'm an honest guy. I would never like go waste. Why would I first go fucking date and just to in the end, maybe I pay, maybe in the maybe uh she leave, maybe just to have sex? Am I that desperate? Yes. It's good that you stick to who you are. But let's be honest. Yes. When you pay prostitute, right? Like, I don't know, a hundred dollars, you save a lot of money. You just come quick, up, you come and finish. But absolutely. If you're to be that desperate, yeah. If you are like, if you're willing to lie to a girl, it is cheaper to just go fuck prostitute. But the girl, you're gonna waste her time, waste her time for a week just to get and then you're gonna mess up her mental. Because you're gonna be like, oh, he said this, this, and this. Great question for you. If you're with the prostitute, are you still trying to make her come? What do you mean? So yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. Really? Oh, for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're the only guy in the world that does that. No, for sure. For sure. But do you think I'm gonna put too many? No, for my mental health, I told you. So you So we always talk about men. You eat pussy, no, prostitute. No. Okay. Condom, kiss condom. Okay. But it's very rarely I do it when my friends go and I with them bachelor party. That's not something I do. Yes. You understand? I respect their work. They get they be careful, girls, when you do. I respect them. You know, when we say bitch, they are not bitches. The bitches is the ones who have shitty personality. That's bitches for me. A girl that degrades and be like shitty personality. Like, you understand me? CC, how much have you been offered to prostitute? A lot. I've been offered a lot. Well, shit, let's talk about it. A mil easily. A million dollars. I'm not willing to do it. Like, unbelievable, guys. Thank you. A million dollars. Thank you. And you turn it down. What am I doing? I'm selling myself, I'm not into it. You're just coming for me, like coming to me, being like, hey, I'm willing to give you this much money. Right. It's not something I want to do. What about something I'm gonna be excited for? It's like sex panther, Sex Panther Minx. Would you do FaceTime sex with guys for hundreds of thousands of dollars? I wouldn't. Wow. Because I'm not into it. I'm not gonna sell myself short. At the end of the day, I do the stuff online that I do because I like doing it. I'm not gonna do anything that I don't like. Have you seen her content? No. It is unbelievable. But I when I if I watch porn, if very rarely, I almost never watch. When I was young, yeah, maybe. But now if solo girls, I like me too. Solo girls fingering slowly, gentle, showing her feet. I like she has the best solo content on the show. Maybe, maybe I don't do clubs, I only do solo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And she is unbelievable. I started with solo before, too. Yeah. Can I show him a solo from CC and have him rate it? Okay. Is that be okay with you? You sure? I'm fine. All right. No, you need to watch him, watch you. Okay, okay, okay. Okay. Here we go. Wait, no, no sound or sound? Sound. Oh my gosh. Sound. Now I'm embarrassed. Look at that. Okay. This is my favorite CC video. I screen recorded it. I'm so sorry. Cece, I already know everything. Unbelievable. Because you think she's shy. Isn't that unbelievable? It's my favorite porn on the internet. My mental health is getting very good. Isn't that fucking good? You think she's done. Yeah, look, look, these are all saved videos of CeCe. Right. I know we're friends, but fuck. It's good fucking content, honey. No, I'm not gonna lie, CC. It's good, right? Yeah, CC. Which one's that? Is that the best solos ever? Very good. Very good. Very good. Very good. Thank you. Very good. So let's talk about mental health. Like no one talks about mental health. And and women go through mental health for sure. Well, first I want to say, sorry to interrupt. I loved your speech at the Exodus Creator Awards. Thank you. You won a big award and you went on stage. I never knew I'm gonna win an awards. I never expected because what I do, I don't care to win or no, I just do it for what I love. Pull the mic in. And what speech do you want me to do? Oh, I am the best. No, I would never say that. Yes. This is my ego. My ego inside me are the best of the best, for sure. So for the fans, the Philipsal fans that don't know, uh, Gatus won a very big award. He won male. What was it? You really don't know. I don't know. It won't change me. It was stay gatos. It doesn't matter. Uh but I I know I'm always winning, for sure. I'm always winning. His acceptance speech was guys, don't drink, don't do drugs, work on your mental health and be happy. And that's all that matters. Let's be honest. A lot of in the events, a lot of actors take drugs. That's for sure. We can't deny it. And I can tell who takes drugs and who doesn't take drugs. And vape is like a drug, alcohol is like a drug, smoking is like a drug. And that when your mental health is not good. No one mental health is good here. I'm telling you, as a man, known man, a mental health is good because you're gonna lose your parents one day, you're gonna lose your dog, your cat, you're gonna be sad, you will never be happy, that's for sure. Let's be honest, right? Sisi, you can if you want, or go on, go on, get to the lap. But uh Kane joined us for the last 20 minutes of the show. I'm blocking you now. No, no, it's fine. Okay. Alright. After seeing their porn, it's just different, right? No. No, same, same. Okay, good. Okay, so it's not easy, you understand? One day you're gonna lose your mom, your dad. It's gonna be very sad. Maybe you don't understand me, but some people, I don't know. Who lost a parent here? Nobody, right? I hope they didn't. That's the kid. Yeah, lost my dad. So yeah, for real. Yeah. Sorry, bro. It's fucking hard. But let me tell you the more you know about love, the more you're gonna know about hate hate and pain. Wow. That's for sure. If you don't grow up with parents, that's good for you, I would say, because maybe less less pain. Yeah, but when you love that person so much, like you I grew up with a dad, I lost it, he was my best friend. Lost your father. Yeah, and that shit hurts me. Yes, and that shit hurts a lot. And I'm a man, I'm a strong masculine motherfucking man. I can bring my fucking head in the wall and it will break. I tell you, I'm fucking beast. Yes, you are, and I still cry almost every day. Is that right? Yeah, for sure. But I would never show it. I cry for myself. Why? Why? Man cannot cry, but men can cry. I cry by myself, I stay strong. It's hard. Is that what battles your mental health the most is lost to your father? I mean, I don't feel pain any longer, you know. He that shit hurts. I I don't feel the pain. I'm already in fucking pain. But I gotta live with it. Doesn't mean I have to suicide myself. Never. Should I kill myself because my dad is dead? No. Or my mom? No. I should keep going. They raised me. They put a lot of efforts to live in this life. That's what I'm telling you. Mental health, you gotta be strong. Some people put their mental health in the vape, in the smoking, in the drugs, in but why not putting it? For example, I put it in sex. I if I I put a lot of sex for my mental health. I need to fuck, I need to put that fucking negative energy there to make myself better. I need to train. Training is good. Who said you don't need fucking training? It doesn't mean you need to be gym. Yeah. You can swim, you can do whatever you want. You have to move your body. Yeah, exercise is good. What the fuck? It's okay to be weak, but it's not okay to stay weak. Right. Right? Yes, sir. So I gotta train. Train is good. It benefits you. Well, look at you. You look like a fucking beast. Are you on steroids catus? Everyone wants to know. What do you think? Bro's a Spartan. I think you're on steroids catus. Okay, maybe you think, but I don't have a beard, my nipples are fine, I have the biggest balls in the world. I don't think, but let me on let me let me be honest with you. Have you ever trained four or five years consistently eating good? Fuck no. I did three years of boxing. No, but I'm talking about. Noah. You know this. I'm a really good boxer. Yeah. Do people know this, by the way? Nobody knows. You can learn boxing. Don't scrap this. Don't fight with me. You can do boxing. Everyone can do swimming, boxing. You can learn it. Yes. But you will never buy a body. You will never buy a body with the amount of money, even though you're the richest people in the world, they even look like shit. Yes. Elon Musk. Discipline. You cannot buy Elon Musk. Have you seen the classic Elon pick? Zuckerberg Jiu-Jitsu. Looks great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Have you seen the classic Elon pick on the beach with this fucking belly? The hoe is on the boat. The hoe is on the boat. I think so. The one that Kanye tweeted. It's the crazy. It's last tweet before getting banned. Just deformed. Yes. Elon's a trillionaire. Here we go. Here we go. Hey, I would like to see Gatus spinning game at Cece. Can we watch your greatness? Because you are probably the greatest pickup artist in modern history. I would like to see how you would seduce CeC Rose. Please. For Jerkmate. I want this to be our Jerkmate segment. Jerkmate is about men and women connecting online, one-on-one private chats, and I want to be inspired by Jerkmate. Cece pretending she's the cam girl, you're the cam boy, a fan. Now, show us your moves on CeCe. How do you talk to a woman? How do you connect? Let's see. Nice to meet you. My name is Yusuf. Nice to meet you. But you can call me Gatoos. You know why? Why? I'm like a cat. You're like a cat. What does that mean? I'm like a nice cat, but very independent, you know? Okay. Where are you from? Toronto. What is it? Do you know where that is? Toronto gattoos. I know, but I'm acting dumb. You gotta make her laugh. Shit. Thank you. Starting right. Keep going. You gotta make her laugh. Yes, yes, yes. Not the first thing you should do with a girl, never be sexual. Never be the guy too horny, too sexual. Because Cece knows I'm a fucking horny motherfucking beast with full of testosterone. She can feel I'm a fucking masculine man. Yes. But I would never tell Cece, Cece, I really want to buggy the bag. And look at look at it. Look at that. Only only Well, the eyes, Chico. There's a twinkle in the case. Say it with me. The eyes Chico. The class. Never lie. That's exactly what I'm saying. Say it with me. The eyes. Never lie. Yeah, but if you're this person. Wait, yo, the two. But I mean, you gave me, I swear to God, you actually gave me such an inspirational like conversation about talking to women. I don't know if you remember. It was about how like, say a girl comes on to you, right? And just like wants to fuck you right away. It's just like kind of a turnoff, right? Now flip it with guys. If guys do that with a girl, they get the same. Give us advice too. But which guy does this? The guy only desperate to get pussy will do that. But if a guy has options, he's successful, he will be like, okay. Whatever. Give uh advice on how to pick up women to our pillow talk fans. See, see, what I'm gonna say right now, it doesn't involve love or having. I'm just talking about someone who wants to have sex or for example, yeah. Because men, number one thing in life, don't talk with one girl how to get women. Don't talk with one girl for sure. Because if you talk with one girl, all your attention will be on her. And then you're gonna be so fucking desperate waiting for her to reply that you're gonna ruin your life. Great advice. But ask yourself Great advice. Is she just answering or is she interacting with you? Maybe she just responding to you. She's just like, hey, what's up? How are you? How are you from? No. What the fuck is this? So it's better to talk with five, ten, twenty girls at the same time. That's right. Great advice. Because the girl would feel it. Would feel that if you're not a if you don't like her the way she texts, just ignore it. You talk with the other girl, with the other girl, with the other girl, the other one will come back. She will feel like you have options. That's exactly right. I can't this guy just on me. Great advice. This guy, everyone wants to get him. It's different. You understand, Cece? Me, I talk to Ceci, but CeCe doesn't show any interaction. Okay, fine. I go. I'm busy with my nine other nine other girls. When you're ready to communicate, I'll give you my time of text. Yeah, but that I'm talking about in situation to have fun, not like a relationship. It's very different, you know? Cece, is it true if you like slowly don't text back with a girl, they kind of want you more a little bit? If they like you, yeah. Uh-huh. If they if they like it, so that's how you weed out who likes you or not. But I would never. Dude, he did that. Don't put all your eggs in one basket. No fuck. That is great news. So have 10 girls on the rasters. When we are you can I say uh a name? Yeah. You and Giselle. Yeah. You put all your eggs in one basket. I hate that bitch. Right. But it's because you put all your eggs now, you have your eggs in multiple baskets, and you're not, you're just tripping. Yeah. Great advice. Don't go all in on one girl, guys. Yes. That is so correct. Put your chips somewhere else and shit. That is so correct. I love poke. Great advice. Keep going, please. I mean, is is it true? Like keep going, get to us. More advice. More advice. You are the master. You are the biggest cocksman in the world, tennis. I think a relationship should be based on the girl wants the guy more. You would be more successful. Yep. If the guy is simping too much to a girl and begging her for love for to be with her, you will become a cock. Maybe you like to be a cock or a submissive motherfucker. I like to pray more. I understand, that's your life. You can adapt. But I think if Sisi, I for it it depends. But if I see Cece, I see you on the street, and you look at me with the beautiful eyes, and I look at you again, I will tell you, wow, you're a very beautiful girl. I will come to you and I say, listen, I don't want to bother you. You always say that I don't want to bother you, Sisi. I'm a really businessman. I have a lot of work. But I just want to maybe go grab a coffee or talk with you, and I'm new here, I don't have friends. Maybe hang out. Nothing sexual. It has to be like Sisi, let's just hang out. Let's talk and hang out. You understand? Yes. That works. But uh This is great advice. Keep going. Not like, hey, SC, I really want you for Netflix. Netflix and chill bullshit. Cece will run away. Yes. Exactly. It's you understand? I don't know why sometimes I meet the oh, I don't fuck on the first. If you girl that you meet and tell you, oh, I don't fuck on the first day, why would you fucking say that? It would turn me off. Like, like just like it will happen when it happened. Yeah, but they're not saying that to you. They're saying it to the people that go up to them being like, hey, I really want you. No, I'm talking in general. Imagine you're with a with a girl, like having like a good time, and she tells you, Oh, I don't have sex on the first day. I think it's a it's a really big uh turnoff. I agree. Because why are you bringing that up? Like I didn't bring up sex. Like, just don't say anything, and uh, we won't have sex, it's fine. Yep. If you want to have sex, we will feel it. Totally. It will happen. Totally. Why would you even like say that shit? No, let me ask you a question. Do you think if you really tried, you could pull CC Rose? Let me be honest with you. SC is a beautiful girl. Thank you. Good energy. But I think if something happened, it should be from her side. I would never like pushing too much to Ceci. You know, SC, I I appreciate it. If SC wants something from me, I would know. And it's more easier that a girl show you that a man show you. It's a little bit creepy the other way around. But like for relationships, if a girl really wants you, it will happen. Because us men, I think I'm personally for myself, I would like a girl like more wants me. Because I'm I'm not I'm a nice guy. I'm not gonna chase you and beg you, it won't work the same, you know? Something else and advice. I don't know if you understand my English, but fuck it. Of course. That's great advice. Talking about if you want to get pushed. Put all your eggs in one basket was the best advice ever given on Pillar Tricky. Yeah, the fact that this is free to watch, what he just said, is insane. Yeah, you guys know. No, I'm talking about experience. People should pay for this experience. Successful men. This is incredible. Have you thought about doing a masterclass course on action? Yeah. Right? Have you thought about that? Soon, yeah, one day. Don't you think that's a good idea? Yeah, yeah, of course that's a good idea. But like I said, when I say this, always I'm always respectful to girls. But it just, I don't waste my time. Yeah. I work a lot. And I feel like in a master class? Yeah. You can tell he actually means it when he says it too. Of course. If I have fans, for example, I like to stay home and watch an American game. A lot of fucking fans. And play video games, but you're more famous than all of us. We went out, look, I get a lot of views, I have a lot of fans. He gets a lot of views, a lot of fans, a lot of views, a lot of fans. But when we went out on Wednesday to back row with you, dude, I have never seen something like it. Yeah, we were. You are the most famous guy in this room. Maybe it's maybe in this fucking town. Maybe it's more easier because I'm famous, but I think you should like have more self-confidence in yourself. When you go out, for example, with a girl, you go, you you better like be honest with a girl. It's like because you're wasting your time and your money and your energy, her energy, every everything. So when a girl texts me, oh Katuz, I really want to see you. Okay, do you wanna is it okay if you want to come to my place? Because let's order food and what? No, I would love dinner. No, I'm sorry. You understand? It doesn't mean I just like you adapt to me or no. Why would the even Right. It's on your time. It's on your demands. Yeah, but you understand? So everyone is different. It's very different. Like, imagine you go with a girl on the first date. No one invited. You planned it. So I think most of the girls, do you want to go dinner, right? Mostly girls ask for dinner. I don't know. Personally, girls ask me like to go dinner. But are you actually asking me for dinner or do you wanna get a free dinner? It's different. Right. Do you want to go have a dinner with me or you want to have a free dinner? Right. Who this is great advice. Men should pay everything. This is a good thing. Men should never pay everything because I work hard. But men should pick and cheese. And you work hard. Who are worthy of these free dinners? You're not my girlfriend. You're not my wife. I don't believe in girlfriend. I believe in wife. If you're not my wife, because girlfriend I think is a waste of time and it won't last long. You either new marry, have kids, or no? It's just a waste. Because most of them have eggs and why? Why waste my time, eggs and zibi? If I want to marry you, have kids, okay. If not, why I will waste my time having a girlfriend for two, three years, wasting your time, energy, same for her. I understand. So if I go on the first date on the girl, and we we we we take care about it. She asked me for why would I pay? You understand? I can't pay. You got to do have money, but I worked hard for my fucking money. Are you my wife? Maybe I'm not gonna see you after the fucking dinner. So I'm honest when I have dinner with a girl and I say, What are we gonna do later? We're gonna have fun, right? Oh, okay. If she says So hold on a second, yeah, I'll be honest as fuck. So you're whoa. I didn't expect this one from you. Yeah, it's it's true. So you say to the girl, yeah, what are we gonna do later? No, what are we gonna do later? Are we gonna have fun? Let's let's watch a movie. Nah, I don't feel it at this time. I don't have sex on the first. Then you split the bill? Yeah, of course. I have to see that. I have to see that in person to believe that. Why would I pay with someone? I'm very surprised by this. No, wait, why would I pay with someone that has a shitty personality and I'm like, I'm not gonna see you. Right, because then you assume that she's just using you for a fucking ribeye steak. It could be, but why even waste time to go dinner? Like, just come to my place and have fun and everyone be happy. Right. Order some fucking postmates. No, I didn't expect this from you. We're not marrying. He's real though. If I take out Sisi to dinner and Sisi, wait, it's different. It's different if I take the girl on dinner or whatever, and the girl is an amazing girl with a really great personality. I had a really great time. Then yeah. But what I mean about dinner, I'm not even like like a another guy told me like a thousand bucks. I put Are you fucking crazy? A thousand bucks you can give gifts to your fucking mom. Where are we where that we're living here? Gifts to your mom. Why would you pay rent for your girlfriend? Why not pay rent for your mom? Such a fucking Sims and cucks this fucking generation. Do you give girls flowers? Of course, all the time. I've recently flowers is the best gifts you can give to a girl. They love that shit. When you invite the girl, when you invite the girl, yeah, you don't need to take her out in a fucking luxury restaurant. You can just like take fucking coffee and go in the parking lot. Can I tell you? Yeah. Okay. So when I was dating Alina Lopez, and she doesn't mind I talk about it. We went on nine dates before she let me eat. Hottest girl Ryan's ever been with. Hottest girl I've been with. On the record. So listen to the skatos. And I want to give advice to the men out there. This is the best tip I'll ever give you. So I took her to Mr. Nice Guy. I took her to Lavo. I took her to Soho House. I took her to eight different top LA restaurants. And then at the end of each night, she'd say, I'm gonna go home. And then we'd make out, and then she'd Uber home. Until I suggested the ninth date. And I said to her, Why don't we do this? Sweatpants, hair tied, chilling with no makeup on. Shit. That's a song, right? It's Drake, yes. Fucking Drake. I said, we're gonna go to the grove. We're gonna go to Cheesecake Factory in sweatpants, no makeup, and then see a movie. That was the night she had let me have sex. And now, every first date I do with a girl, I say no makeup, no dressing up, sweatpants, cheesecake cheesecake, and then a movie. And girls love it. Oh my god. Do you agree that's a best first date? Yeah. The comfort they feel to just be in sweatpants, cuddling you, watching a movie, having $12 pasta from cheesecake, they love it and they feel comfortable. And that is the best advice I can give all men right now. Yeah, but what I say about like not paying the bill, I'm not gonna take a girl I don't know for the first time in a crazy fucking restaurant, too. So if you really want to see me and eat something, we can just order and be around in the in the park walking around. If she oh no, I don't we I prefer to go to this place. Text stage. Go to this place, you want me to pay for it. It's different, right? If I take the girl, if I invite Sisi, Sisi is very famous, right? Maybe Sisi expects me to take her. No, SC, let's have coffee. Let's sit somewhere in the coffee shop, let's walk around on the river. Yeah, I think it's a good thing. If she ex Sisi agree, then yeah, I pay. It's like how much? Like, like uh like cheese. I understand, but I'm not like I put a hundred bucks or two hundred bucks on a girl that I'm not even like had a good time on the first time. Yeah. If you're really nice on the first time and you deserve it, then yeah, I will take you and have fun. And of course, that's how you weed out who's actually into you and not. You ever wonder how much money you've spent on girls in your entire life? Oh, it's very interesting. I spent a lot of money on my mom, I'm sure. My only love. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. My only love is my mom. I love you, my mom. What a girl forever. My only love, the only woman I will trust for all my life, forever. The only woman I will trust is my mom. I never I will never trust a woman. I can't lie to you, CC. Never uh in my life. Not even your wife? I'm not having a wife. Even my wife, if you want the truth. Are you gonna get married to have kids? Even my wife. A successful man, famous, making money, trust no one. You're gonna get married and have kids, Gatus. No. So the only woman I can trust is my mom, because my mom knows, like not Gatus knows that the fucking broken man that he starts. The only man, you know, a broken man is only loved by his mom. Remember this. Put this in your mind. Can you repeat what I said, please? A broken man is only loved by his mom. A broken man is only loved by his mom. Remember this. Yeah. I start from nothing to something to everything. Do you think people know me as gathos now? Every girl knows me as gathous. Every now knows me as a successful man. But nobody knows me when I was fucking broke. Yes, right. You're fucking training morning and night, pull-ups and dips in my fucking backyard. Only my mom. She says, You're good looking, my son, every day. I don't care. I fuck really good. I think you're one of the best looking guys. I fuck really thank you, but I fuck really good. Gorgeous. I fuck really good. Hey, you think me and Kane are good looking guys? I make girls in heaven. That's a good question. That's my power. That's actually good. Yeah, that's my power. One out of ten. Be honest. Him first, him first. Let me be honest. Yeah. You wouldn't like it if I'm honest. No, please. Do it. You don't think I'm handsome? Yeah, yeah. No, I'm still it's not about hand. I don't think you would like it. I would like, maybe to be direct, like Yes, yes, yes. Okay, let's start with Pillow Talk. I think Ryan needs a little bit of masculinity, okay? Need to be more masculine, a little bit a little bit feminine. And girls maybe would think you're bi or gay, not like straight. I do get that a lot. Let me let me let me get uh maybe uh less less drinking, more like serious, because uh if a girl see you always like uh drinking like high, she'll be like you know what I mean? Not like Chimmin, you need to stop vaping. I love you, Ryan. You gotta stop vaping. Vaping scringe. Yeah. I love you. Okay. I think I think I think the I think the whole thing is that you yes, let me hear it. We look fucking the same, man. Come on. Are you fucking kidding me? You don't look like the tooth, bro. I have to think. Think, brother, please. I think uh same a bit. A little bit more. What is that? You didn't give the attitude. No, I don't rate anybody because we're all beautiful. It just I think I think for a man, a little bit masculinity too. Yeah. We need to work out more steroids like a two. More like alpha male. No, I don't do two. All right, how about CC Rose? What do you think? Well, more working out, take care of yourself, more like investing. Maybe 10 too. You gotta get a 10. Yeah, a little bit getting in shape, I would say, will make you even like a better man. You know what it is, bro? This guy gave me a good quote like three years ago. He's like, listen, man, if I get basically any girl that I want right now with my body, why the fuck would I need to work out? I think and look back. You said I'm trying to say that. We don't work out for the girls. I'm sorry. My mental health is good. Yes. You don't want to be 40 and not being able to like sit on the floor. If my mental health is good and I'm fucking any girl I want, why do I need to go spend three hours in the gym? Yeah, and just go deal through that, like, oh fuck, I hate lifting heavy pies. I dream. Do it for your future self though. You don't do it for your future self-espect. I think we're gonna have like we're gonna have like technology and like they're gonna have like lab shit where we can just take a pill and you're gonna be superhuman. Well, peptides, red your time. No, no, no, no. I'm sorry. I don't believe in peptides. I'm sorry. Why? I told you guys, generation weak. You believe in peptides, in fucking shit. Go fucking train four or five years and eat fucking real food and then you tell me about body. I train more than 10 years. Do you think I do it for for fucking girls? I do it for my mental health. When you do when you train good. Yeah, but my mental health is good. No, when you're consistent, when you eat good and you train, it's one hour a day, it's nothing, even 30 minutes. Your body automatically will be here. But the body is already gonna have body straw. But we train, I train for my mental health. What do you want me to do? Yeah, what do you want me to do? Get fucked up on drugs? I'm sorry, it's better to fucked up myself in the gym that I will benefit from it. What do you think CC is out of 10? CC? Wow. I I I I I can't lie. She's beautiful, and even when I when I'm with you, wow. That's it. I I that's our favorite word. Wow. Wow, it's like it's like the highest thing. Wow. Oh yeah. There we go. All right. You have a celebrity crush? I don't know. I don't know. What do you think of Sydney Sweeney out of 10? Who? Sydney Sweeney. I'll show you a picture. This is a good one, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. Because this is the most up for debate. But I'm sure, I'm sure a lot of celebrities watch porn. Even if you watch more porn than you are. The biggest celebrities. They know who you are. The biggest celebrities are. Celebrities know Pillow Talk because they watch even Pillow Talk more than other podcasts. Porn are the celebrities to the celebrities. Do you guys agree? Porn stars are the celebrities to the celebrities. Yeah. Here you go. Everyone watch porn. But we should talk about porn if you want. The girl on the on the right. What do you think? Sydney Sweeney. You ever seen her? Now, this is the biggest debate for Topic because she just won most beautiful woman in the world by uh was it what magazine? Time or yes? Or or Vogue. That's a great picture for that. I think every man to be like at least eight out of ten needs to stop. Like, let me be honest with you guys, working out. You can do sport. Jimmy's okay, you know, but just go for fun. It's very important to work out. I play like pick-up basketball, that's like my fucking thing. Yeah, but when a girl sees someone in a shape in a good shape, you feel like he's uh has discipline, he's taking care of himself. I think that you masturbate the anime porn. No. When I watch anime, I watch anime because he helps you and he gives you a lot of good things to make you better. It's always these Asian Jack guys, isn't it? Yeah, anime is not about animation. Some anime maybe. Yeah, a lot of lessons in anime. I can give you a lot of. Because nobody believes this, but Gatouz's phone is not any hot girls on his export page. It is literally all 12 boxes anime, anime, anime, anime. What is up with that? I think we live in a shitty world. And anime show you like reality is shit. I better prefer to live in a fantasy and teach me lesson than fucking living in this fucking accursed world. This word is a is a is a piece of shit word, let's say. Yeah, what do you think happens after we die? Whoa. I don't give a fuck about what happens after I die because I have to leave every day. But nobody chooses to live in this fucking world when you have to pay for the fucking rent, when you have to pay for the fucking earth, you have to pay for the water. Why would the fuck I pay for the water? I need to drink water, it should be free. Right. Right? I can okay a baby pay for pussy, but why would I pay for water? It's crazy. Like slavery before you know what slavery before, they they get water, they get shelter, but they don't have salary. Now we pay for everything. They kill all the people, tax asshole, tax pussy, tax. Like if somebody creates uh something that's like we live in a word, like even money is not even real, it's just paper. Can you believe that? What is money? Money was man created. But what is it? In 1970, I don't know if you know this President Nixon, he basically disconnected gold being with the dollar. So now there's just infinite printing. Yeah, because now they print and put themselves in debt. Yeah, but that's why we live in this shitty world. It's fake. We've disagreed this thing is worth. But however, this is not a conspiracy theory podcast. This is about love. The heart. Right. Love, connections, relationships, sex. Yeah. Yeah, that's why we sh we live in the shitty world. But I can't change er anything, right? So the most important thing is you have to make money right now. Right now, it's the time of money. When I was a kid, it was a time of love. Like there is no social media, it's hard to make money, there is more love with family. But now, look at this generation, sucks. They don't even respect old people or you understand me? It's time to make money. A man with no money, no one respects him. Only his mom. I told him. People don't care what you say. They care what you're saying. It's very easy for a girl. She has to be pretty. Yeah. Right? That's right. For example, me. She has an expiring day. It depends. Let's say Cece, right? Cece is a beautiful girl, works on a coffee shop. She doesn't have money, she's bro, but she's beautiful and good energy. Yeah. And me, I'm a multimillionaire. I would think Cece, I will have a kid with you and I will pay for everything. Just raise my kids and be the best wife ever. But she has the highest value in the coffee shop. But higher than you. Even though you're a millionaire. But a beautiful woman trumps all. But let's see, Sisi is a multimillionaire. A beautiful woman is the most important person in the room. No, no, let's I don't care about money, but let's see SC is a multi-millionaire. I'm a man in a coffee shop. Normal man, not working out, nothing. You think SC will marry a guy and have kids with a guy? I'm sorry, us men, we are fucking tired. We have to be rich, successful, good body, good dick, for good. Don't come. Zippy, love baby. Make her come, last long. Hey, Zibi. We are it's a lot of pressure on a man. In shape. A girl, a pretty girl. Nice apartment. Nice car. Nice watch. Nice watch. Good looking. Good looking. Laughter. Funny. Cool. Treats her good. A lot of pressure. You know why, too? When you start 18-year-old, if you think you're gonna fuck girls, you are in a competition with me already. Yes, absolutely. That's the truth. That's 2026. Now, when we were growing up at 18, we were fucking girls in our parents' basements because there was no social media. It was the gift of the gab. Whoever could speak the best game when we were out was taking girls home. Now you competed with fucking tattoos. Yeah. Sliding in DMs. That's sliding 10 men. Dude, imagine being 18 and broke right now. Worst time ever to be 18. Yeah, it's fucking crazy. Because when I tell when you are a man, I tell you always invest in yourself. Save your money. Train good. Girls, there is a billions of girls in the world. Girls is easy. She has to be pretty. Yo, do you slide in girls' DMs? Instagram? Do you send I sli I send them DMs? DMs? No. Never? Only if I see her in real life, then I can send the DM. But you never usually find a girl. Almost never. Oh, you don't scroll, that's right. Almost never. Damn. Because you know why? It's better than the girl. She say it to me. It's more easy. Because I know I'm a nice guy, everything will be easier. Never be the one to chase. Be the one everyone chase. Remember this. There it is. What a show! I need my boots.